Jaco Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 There's obviously thousands of tracks with evocative and emotive lyrics about relationships etc within the scene, and the thread in the Free Base forum about child custody matters etc made me think, has there ever been a more bitter and damning indictment of a failed relationship than the lyrics of "After all " by Sam Dees. It is absolute genius if he wrote this song without experiencing the pain that oozes from the grooves - to be honest he is a genius anyhow, but the lines "We can't even be strangers again" and "You won't ever find another sucker like me" must touch a chord with all those who have sadly experienced such events. So what other lyrics capture the sadness and poigniancy of lost love? Don't want to appear too depressing - I might be suffering from Seasonal Affective Disorder. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest southpaw Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 There's obviously thousands of tracks with evocative and emotive lyrics about relationships etc within the scene, and the thread in the Free Base forum about child custody matters etc made me think, has there ever been a more bitter and damning indictment of a failed relationship than the lyrics of "After all " by Sam Dees. It is absolute genius if he wrote this song without experiencing the pain that oozes from the grooves - to be honest he is a genius anyhow, but the lines "We can't even be strangers again" and "You won't ever find another sucker like me" must touch a chord with all those who have sadly experienced such events. So what other lyrics capture the sadness and poigniancy of lost love? Don't want to appear too depressing - I might be suffering from Seasonal Affective Disorder. Jimmy Bo Horne - I just cant speak Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Steve Edgar Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 There's obviously thousands of tracks with evocative and emotive lyrics about relationships etc within the scene, and the thread in the Free Base forum about child custody matters etc made me think, has there ever been a more bitter and damning indictment of a failed relationship than the lyrics of "After all " by Sam Dees. It is absolute genius if he wrote this song without experiencing the pain that oozes from the grooves - to be honest he is a genius anyhow, but the lines "We can't even be strangers again" and "You won't ever find another sucker like me" must touch a chord with all those who have sadly experienced such events. So what other lyrics capture the sadness and poigniancy of lost love? Don't want to appear too depressing - I might be suffering from Seasonal Affective Disorder. "Let Me Down Easy" Betty Lavette..... with a writer named Wreich Holloway, ya kno it gotta be gut wreichin' Dale Warren produced perfection IMHO steve Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Stuart T Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 Billy Bland - Shes Already Married, complete and utter tear jerker, the Chuck Bernard version isn't quite as painful but as good in a different way if that makes sense. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Baz Atkinson Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 GOOD THREAD TRY CELESTE HARDY -YOU TOUCHED THE INNER PART OF ME ON LOADSTONE ,THE BRILLIANT HERSEY TAYLOR LET ME MAKE YOU HAPPY ON FUTURE STARS,MASQUERADERS ON LA BEAT -ONE MORE CHANCE, AND THE SUBLIMINAL DELLS -THE LOVE WE HAD STAYS ON MY MIND ON CADET TO NAME A FEW. THE DEEPEST ONES ARE THE BEST. BAZ A. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Winnie :-) Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 Jimmy Bo Horne - I just cant speak ========== Good call, I'd go for.... Don't turn your back on me.....Jack Montgomery Little girl.......Corey Glover These memories.....Almeta Lattimore All pretty emotional tracks, that could only fail to move the most hard hearted person. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest cC B Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 (edited) So what other lyrics capture the sadness and poigniancy of lost love? Natural Impulse "She went away" "I got up this morning in the usual way, girl.. I had a letter from my baby sayin' that she was goin' away.." The ultimate lost love song imo.. Gives me the goose bumps each and every time I hear it.. Gut wrenching.. CB Edited November 17, 2006 by cC B Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Val (Chunky) Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 Four Tops "Do What You Gotta' Do" Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest smigger Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 "Let Me Down Easy" Betty Lavette..... with a writer named Wreich Holloway, ya kno it gotta be gut wreichin' Dale Warren produced perfection IMHO steve Was getting my box ready when I came across it. Stuck it on and had visions of a some one sitting alone at the bar crying into their pint. Thought to myself: Yeah, that's the tune to break any man/woman. So I opened a new section in my box called "Suicide Cafe". Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Jumpinjoan Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 HESITATIONS - IS THAT THE WAY TO TREAT A GIRL - GWP You bet it is.... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Simsy Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 Freddie Scott - Hey girl Walter Jackson - Uphill climb to the bottom Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest in town Mikey Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 I've walked away. I've tried to resist. But i cant. I have to type it! You destroy me. Cos you're stronger than me. I offered you my poor heart, you tore my world all apart, now you wont set me free Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest markmtfc Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 Freddie Scott- Mr Heartache Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest MissHongkongfuey Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 Do scary evil lyrics at the thought of a failed relationship count??? Aaron Neville - Over You.......... Frightning! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
jocko Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 Hmm just realised all these are my type of song, maybe I am a miserable ba****d after all!! How about one that keeps getting revisited, 4 Tops _ Ask The Lonely especially as its crescendo builds "Just ask the lonely, just ask meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee ..... Im the lonliest one you'll seeeeeeeeee" paraphrasing slightly as taking from memory, can feel a blubber coming on. The more we discuss this the more I think this is the greatest piece of recorded music ever! Jock Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Simon Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 A few that do it for me Eddie Holman's 'I'll cry 1,000 tears', Dusty's 'All cried out' & Dee Dee Warwick's 'Gotta get a hold of myself', all gut wrenching in the true sense. Simon Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Paul McKay Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 Carolyn Sullivan - Dead - Philips Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
John Reed Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 I must concur with Billy Bland, awsome. Members of Staff - Stop the Bells - Evejim. Hopefully a tune no-one would ever want to hear at a wedding. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest mrs norman maine Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 (edited) has there ever been a more bitter and damning indictment of a failed relationship than the lyrics of "After all " by Sam Dees. How about Rozetta Johnson "Mine was real"? Effortlessly capturing the awfulness of being resigned to staying in a failing relationship after a partner has cheated, but knowing that "we'll probably spend the rest of our lives together"....... Freddie Houston: "If I had known" Said it before & will say it again The Appointments' "Keep Away" - "I don't know what you're you're trying to proooove.....but let me tell you what you'd better do..." you can almost hear the clenched teeth! And the ultimate 'jilted at the altar song' " Rented Tuxedo" Billy Bland, Betty LaVette, 4 Tops....etc some good ones already mentioned, but aren't Walter Jackson and The Hesitations actually upbeat lyrics? Or have I mis-understood ? Edited November 17, 2006 by mrs norman maine Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Iancsloft Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 Quicksand--Kell Osborne.......Oh how it hurts Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Bearsy Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 Al Wilson - The Snake I cried my eyes out when that tender woman got bit by that snake and he knew damn well what he was doing and know she`s going to die. the ungrateful reptile Bearsy Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest DonnaD Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 For me: I don't care any more - Doris Duke I can't make it any more - Rickie Havens I just can't take no more - Jimmy Raye (seems to be a theme going on ) Just to break it - I absolutely love the lyric "since I've been with you I've been walking into closed doors crying" - Frank Beverley - OUCH! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Stuart T Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 Al Wilson - The Snake I cried my eyes out when that tender woman got bit by that snake and he knew damn well what he was doing and know she`s going to die. the ungrateful reptile I think it served her right to be frank, when she took him in she knew he was potentially dangerous, she really has only got herself to blame. Add to this list Dee Dee Warwick Don't Think My Babys Coming Back. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sean Hampsey Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 (edited) A few from the top of my head:- "What Can I Tell Her" Timmy Thomas Cracked 'em up in the deep room when I played it down at Yarmouth. So good the punters made me play it twice! "I Don't Care Anymore" Doris Duke The gritty, tough, hard life tale from "I'm a Loser" "You Got Me" Jaibi You got me climbing up the wall! "I Dont Wanna Leave You" Debbie Taylor "What Ever Made You Think... I Could Go On Living This Way" Try To Leave Me If You Can" Bessie Banks "I Bet You Can't Do It" "I Keep Coming Back" Tyrone Davis The man... at his best. The climax just shakes every wall in the house. "That's How It Is" Otis Clay Please somebody take their hand... and slap some sense in me! "These Aint Raindrops" James Carr No, No...They're Tears "Not You" Walter Jackson Someone else... might be untrue... but not you, no not you, no not you! Devastating! Sean Hampsey Edited November 17, 2006 by Sean Hampsey Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Lady Maverick Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 I gotta give it to Smokey Robinson/Miracles' OOH BABY BABY: "I'm just about at the end of my rope, But I can't stop trying, I can't give up hope..." Get me everytime! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Bully Boy Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 "What Can I Tell Her" Timmy Thomas Cracked 'em up in the deep room when I played it down at Yarmouth. So good the punters made me play it twice! "I Don't Care Anymore" Doris Duke The gritty, tough, hard life tale from "I'm a Loser" "You Got Me" Jaibi You got me climbing up the wall! "I Dont Wanna Leave You" Debbie Taylor "What Ever Made You Think... I Could Go On Living This Way" Try To Leave Me If You Can" Bessie Banks "I Bet You Can't Do It" "I Keep Coming Back" Tyrone Davis The man... at his best. The climax just shakes every wall in the house. "That's How It Is" Otis Clay Please somebody take their hand... and slap some sense in me! "These Aint Raindrops" James Carr No, No...They're Tears "Not You" Walter Jackson Someone else... might be untrue... but not you, no not you, no not you! Devastating! Sean Hampsey Sean, You want to try living in Brimingtom mate, You don't need Tyrone Davis to shake the walls, when an HGV goes by, the windows RUMBLE!!!!!!!!!!! Some great choices there Mate, Debbie Taylor - "When Was The Last Time You Looked At Me" What A Fookin' Superb Double Header!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The Bulmeister! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Addio Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 One that always gets me is: Missin' My Baby - Clydie King Sound clip anyone & I'll get the hankies Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest MissHongkongfuey Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 Do scary evil lyrics at the thought of a failed relationship count??? Aaron Neville - Over You.......... Frightning! "If I ever hear you say we're through There'll be a hole about six feet deep For you baby to take your sleep Into a pine box an' down you'll go Where you will stay where it's free of snow Over you, I said over you Over you, pretty baby If I ever hear you say we're through All your folks will be dressed in black Ride a long black Cadillac Yeah, baby they'll be puttin' you away The funeral home'll have the business that day" I wouldn't want him for a boyfriend!!!! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Richard Bayley Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 "...And there's one thing I'll never understand, just now you had the nerve to take that pen in your hand, and sign it TRULY YOURS...." (Temp's version, naturally) Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest MissHongkongfuey Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 One that always gets me is: Missin' My Baby - Clydie King Sound clip anyone & I'll get the hankies14___clydie_king___missin__my_baby.mp3 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest MissHongkongfuey Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 (edited) Missin My Baby - clydie king - beat ballad bliss/ soul kitchen 04 11670 refosoul Got carried away there....... tried to cancel one but they both popped up. Enjoy Addio! Edited November 17, 2006 by MissHongkongfuey Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ted Massey Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 (edited) to slow i mean me not the record Edited November 17, 2006 by Tedsoul Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
NorthernMoorSoul Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 There's obviously thousands of tracks with evocative and emotive lyrics about relationships etc within the scene, and the thread in the Free Base forum about child custody matters etc made me think, has there ever been a more bitter and damning indictment of a failed relationship than the lyrics of "After all " by Sam Dees. It is absolute genius if he wrote this song without experiencing the pain that oozes from the grooves - to be honest he is a genius anyhow, but the lines "We can't even be strangers again" and "You won't ever find another sucker like me" must touch a chord with all those who have sadly experienced such events. So what other lyrics capture the sadness and poigniancy of lost love? Don't want to appear too depressing - I might be suffering from Seasonal Affective Disorder. Barbara NcNair-Your'e gonna love my baby Artistics-This heart of mine David Ruffin-My whole world ended(the moment you left me) Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Addio Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 Missin My Baby - clydie king - beat ballad bliss/ soul kitchen 04 11670 refosoul Got carried away there....... tried to cancel one but they both popped up. Enjoy Addio! Thanks Miss Hongkongfuey, enjoying already. Always nice when one pops up but two at the same time, what can I say? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ted Massey Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 My love grows deeper - clydie king - imperial 11672 refosoul B side deserves a listen Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Winsford Soul Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 (edited) Hmm just realised all these are my type of song, maybe I am a miserable ba****d after all!! How about one that keeps getting revisited, 4 Tops _ Ask The Lonely especially as its crescendo builds "Just ask the lonely, just ask meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee ..... Im the lonliest one you'll seeeeeeeeee" paraphrasing slightly as taking from memory, can feel a blubber coming on. The more we discuss this the more I think this is the greatest piece of recorded music ever! Jock Got to agree. Another couple that get me ... Originals, Baby i.m for real. Winstons, Colour him father . Tony Clarkes, Wrong Man. Steve Edited November 17, 2006 by Winsford Soul Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Rotherham Soul Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 (edited) Al Williams - I Am Nothing does it for me Edited November 17, 2006 by rotherham soul Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Garethx Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 (edited) To me these kind of songs define soul music itself and set it apart from other forms of music. Few can deliver a lyric of this type with more power, honesty, humanity and emotional intensity than Otis Clay. Check "You Hurt Me For The Last Time", "Tired Of Falling In And Out Of Love", "The Woman Doesn't Live Here Anymore", "Love Don't Love Nobody", "Pouring Water On A Drowning Man", "You're Gonna Hate Yourself In The Morning" (from the pen of the aforementioned Sam Dees), the immortal "That's How It Is" and my current favourite, "I Lost Someone" for stellar examples of his uncanny ability to translate others' lyrics of pain, regret and recrimination. Truly a spectacular exemplification of the consummate soul singer's art. But my favourite example of this type of soul song is Denise LaSalle's "Trying To Forget About You". Words can't express how wonderful this record is, and the line on the fade where she sings "... and if I ever find myself crawling to your door again, I'm gonna stay right there, stay right there, until you let me in..." before breaking into what can only be described as an anguished howl is one of the greatest, truest parts in all recorded soul music. The lp version has a precious extra twenty or so seconds of the agony and is well worth seeking out. Edited November 21, 2006 by garethx Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest geordiebri Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 Well Isn't this really the epitomy of what soul is all about anyway? For my money anyway, try these. Debbie Taylor - I don't wanna leave you Smokey Robinson - Baby, Baby don't cry. Four Tops - Just can't get you out of my mind And of course for pure good old venom you can't go past Marvins -Here my Dear with classics like Anger When Did You Stop Loving Me, When Did I Stop Loving You You Can Leave, But It's Going to Cost You I hate the bitch I hope she dies in a car crash ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! Only joking about the last two. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Adam G Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 Bessie Banks -Try to leave me Barbara Hall-Drop my heart off William Stuckey or Bobby Bland-You can count on me Sam Dees -signed miss heroin GC Cameron-Night like this in Georgia Al Green-How do you mend a broken heart David Ruffin-Rainy night in Georgia (must be a depressing state!) David Lasley-Take a look Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sweeney Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 (edited) Since it hasn't been mentioned The Drifter - Ray Pollard. The whole premise of the song - a man unable to cope with the death of his true love and his subsequent descent into homelessness is as gut wrenching as it gets. Any song with the lines: "I wasn't always down once I had a love by my side a love so strong that money couldn't buy but heaven called and took her away out of my arms and left me to wander" has to take the prize for gut wrenching lyrics. Edited November 17, 2006 by sweeney Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Dan Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 Since it hasn't been mentioned The Drifter - Ray Pollard. good shout sweens guitar ray always gets me too. but birdie green, how come, is my no1 sad tune for the emotion of the singing i find a lot of old records sad in a different way - you can hear the hopes and dreams of the artists in the track, recorded on a day they maybe though this was going to be the one that made them big. 40 years on, those dreams have turned to dust, and often so have they. i find that very poignant and almost eery: try listening to darrel banks, for instance. there he is, singing so beautifully, and not knowing he had a few years to live. very unsettling. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Lady Maverick Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 Well Isn't this really the epitomy of what soul is all about anyway? Anger When Did You Stop Loving Me, When Did I Stop Loving You You Can Leave, But It's Going to Cost You That whole LP is something else! Marvin really wore his feelings on his sleeve on that one! I remember playing it everyday when I broke up with my ex-fiance 2 years ago, especially YOU CAN LEAVE, BUT IT'S GOING TO COST YOU! One more: I'VE BEEN LOVING YOU TOO LONG-Otis Redding Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest mrs norman maine Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 i find a lot of old records sad in a different way - you can hear the hopes and dreams of the artists in the track, recorded on a day they maybe though this was going to be the one that made them big. 40 years on, those dreams have turned to dust, and often so have they. i find that very poignant and almost eery: try listening to darrel banks, for instance. there he is, singing so beautifully, and not knowing he had a few years to live. very unsettling. is there a crying emoticon? Expressed perfectly. This is also the reason I don't like seeing live acts. I get too nervous for them & worry that they might be pinning their hopes on a career revival. How patronising am I? Someone mentioned Clydie King, so I've got to add " If you were a man" Plus (ooh I love a sad thread):Charlie Pride-"Don't tear me down" Big Maybelle "Lord what are you doing to me" and "Do not pass me by" and Esther Phillips " Home is where the hatred is" Oh dear! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest rasfoz Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 Since it hasn't been mentioned The Drifter - Ray Pollard. The whole premise of the song - a man unable to cope with the death of his true love and his subsequent descent into homelessness is as gut wrenching as it gets. Any song with the lines: "I wasn't always down once I had a love by my side a love so strong that money couldn't buy but heaven called and took her away out of my arms and left me to wander" has to take the prize for gut wrenching lyrics. Spot on choice Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sean Hampsey Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 Plus (ooh I love a sad thread):Charlie Pride-"Don't tear me down" Did you mean Charlie Rich? If so agree, most definitely. Also......... the immortal Johnnie Mae Matthews "I Have No Choice".... and you said, you said, that you'd never lie! Great stuff. Sean Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
soulAdequateNP Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 Barbara NcNair-Your'e gonna love my baby Unquestionably - not advisable to listen to after you've just been upgraded And staying with Motown, what about Brenda Holloway "Just Look What You've Done" - "now helplessly I stand watching love walk away..." (<- will that do as a crying emoticon?) Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Lady Maverick Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 And staying with Motown, what about Brenda Holloway "Just Look What You've Done" - "now helplessly I stand watching love walk away..." (<- will that do as a crying emoticon?) Yes! That emoticon says it all as well as the song! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
MarkWhiteley Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 Hmm just realised all these are my type of song, maybe I am a miserable ba****d after all!! Tops _ Ask The Lonely The more we discuss this the more I think this is the greatest piece of recorded music ever! Jock without a doubt jock, motowns finest hour (well 2 mins odd) M Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Maark Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 "I'm Hurt" by Little Tommy. If I'd have heard this 5 years ago when my marraige ended, I probably would have topped myself! "I'm huuuuurt, much more much more much more than you'll ever ever knooooooowwww!" and sung with such conviction! Great stuff. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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