son of stan

Tavares and Freda Payne....

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Hi This is one that I don;t know if it was a hit or not or an obscurity...? I have only ever seen it on a UK demo. Sounds like a n absolute monster.

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30 minutes ago, son of stan said:

Hi This is one that I don;t know if it was a hit or not or an obscurity...? I have only ever seen it on a UK demo. Sounds like a n absolute monster.

Great record , copies on discogs going for about £2.00.

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Loved this since I first heard it a few years ago, something deeply charming about it - cheap as chips on eBay - though I've not got round to getting one yet.

Dx

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I wonder if people pass this over because its Tavares and just think its a common or cheap record..?

Believe me, it's not.  It never turns up and once those copies on discogs / ebay are gone they're gone

 

 

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Didn't know this and loved it first play, thanks - just picked one up on discogs for a couple of quid, proper bargain :thumbsup:

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2 hours ago, shinehead said:

Great record , copies on discogs going for about £2.00.

Nice to see vinyl fairly priced for once. :yes:

?:hatsoff2:- Kev

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Its a super soul record. Would sit well in any DJ set. 

Just shows that class does not always have to = lots of cash. 

Pete

:hatsoff2:

 

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Loved Freda Payne since Band of Gold (Tavares ain't too bad either)

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Well thought of for many a year round our way too :thumbsup:

Cheers Paul

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A big fave of mine since it was first issued. Quite simply one of the the best 'duets' ever released. Such a great, great song and it's unfathomable how it was never a hit or how it's never been covered. Brilliant!

Ian D :)

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:ohmy:  not a wonder its been given a miss its cheap for the reason its boring :sleep3:

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5 hours ago, Chris Turnbull said:

Didn't know this and loved it first play, thanks - just picked one up on discogs for a couple of quid, proper bargain :thumbsup:

Same here, grabbed a copy from my Pals at discogs, must strike while the iron is hot! :thumbup:  :hatsoff2: 

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25 minutes ago, redditchcrew said:

:ohmy:  not a wonder its been given a miss its cheap for the reason its boring :sleep3:

Oy! 

:wicked:

:thumbup:

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The price just shot up! Tavares under rated soul band... remember Madam Butterfly alongside this as well as Whodunit etc

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19 minutes ago, redditchcrew said:

:hatsoff2:          :sleep3::sleep3::sleep3:

We can dig you out some hundred mile an hour white crap if you like! :wicked:

:thumbup:

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Tavares. One of the best live bands ever. Absolutely fantastic.

Steve

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1 hour ago, redditchcrew said:

:ohmy:  not a wonder its been given a miss its cheap for the reason its boring :sleep3:

Thanks for your positivity, cloth ears.

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51 minutes ago, Winsford Soul said:

Tavares. One of the best live bands ever. Absolutely fantastic.

Steve

Much preferred them in their previous incarnation as Chubby & the Turnpikes.

:hatsoff2:- Kev 

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14 hours ago, Peter99 said:

We can dig you out some hundred mile an hour white crap if you like! :wicked:

:thumbup:

  now now no need for that attitude & rather aggressive retort only having fun .you bite to hard sunshine :wicked::pirate:

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This one ain't too shabby too and only  £0.48p on discogs

 

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14 hours ago, son of stan said:

Thanks for your positivity, cloth ears.

 your welcome club soul brother

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Vastly underrated outfit.

Responsible for one of the best tracks ever - Let me heal the bruises from a great album - Madame Butterfly

This is a quality track that I've known for years and definitely needs more airing.

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3 hours ago, redditchcrew said:

  now now no need for that attitude & rather aggressive retort only having fun .you bite to hard sunshine :wicked::pirate:

I was pulling your leg - hence the smileys!

 

P

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I think it was Ian Dewhirst who mentioned this in a post on SS a few years ago. I'd not heard it but loved it and bought a copy, nice and cheap. I've played it out, at the MonuMental Soul weekender and other places, always popular. But there will be some who will decry it as "disco". And of course it being cheap doesn't help either.

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Posted (edited)

Also got a release here in Holland

Cheers Paul

 

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Great tune that one - this is good as well -

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Hiya, nice bit of happy pop soul - tavares  'being with you'  cheers

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Anyone know if it ever came out on US 7 at all? Or came out on UK issue?

Quick image search only shows the UK promo and what looks like a Euro one. Can't say I have done extensive investigations but always had a hunch for some reason, that this one wasn't properly released / fell through the cracks for some reason.. Sounds like a club and possible chart hit but seems obscure given the artists involved and its obvious quality and appeal to either market.

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i wouldn't buy it even for 10p pure disco .............end of story

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1 hour ago, givemesoul said:

i wouldn't buy it even for 10p pure disco .............end of story

You don't know about soul music then do you. End of story.

:wicked:

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9 hours ago, givemesoul said:

i wouldn't buy it even for 10p pure disco .............end of story

REALLY are we still hearing this sort of viewpoint after all these years?

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Rather listen to this than crap like 'Tears of joy' or 'When we get there'

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Thanks for posting this.... I purchased a copy straight away after hearing it as it's right up my street.... I didn't realise I already knew the track, but as a Tavares only version with no Freda Payne vocal... Such a great track, and for the record I love Disco!!!!

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On January 8, 2017 at 19:47, son of stan said:

Anyone know if it ever came out on US 7 at all? Or came out on UK issue?

Quick image search only shows the UK promo and what looks like a Euro one. Can't say I have done extensive investigations but always had a hunch for some reason, that this one wasn't properly released / fell through the cracks for some reason.. Sounds like a club and possible chart hit but seems obscure given the artists involved and its obvious quality and appeal to either market.

I wondered the same as my copy is also a demo, so I had a dig around. It appears that it was a UK only release (or UK and Netherlands to be accurate). Released around October 1977 when it first showed up in the Blues & Soul chart. The UK release of the Best of Tavares LP has this track on it but the US release does not.

While digging around I also discovered that Tavares had recorded a version of Strangers In Dark Corners, one of my favourite Johnny Bristol tracks. You never know what you'll turn up!

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They also did  a pretty good Edgar Winter cover: :wink:

 

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Tavares suffer in the eyes and ears of many because they happened to have some success! God forbid! SOUL collectors know different. Some fantastic tracks mentioned. I'd add 'I Hope She Chooses Me' 'Watchin The woman's Movement' Great soul and cheap as chips. 

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Just now, harrogatesoul said:

Tavares suffer in the eyes and ears of many because they happened to have some success! God forbid! SOUL collectors know different. Some fantastic tracks mentioned. I'd add 'I Hope She Chooses Me' 'Watchin The woman's Movement' Great soul and cheap as chips. 

 God forbid! SOUL collectors know different

Nail on the head, well said Richie

Kev

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I actually consider the 12-inch version of Heavem Must Be Missing an Angel to be a dance floor masterpeiece. Sometimes a band are popular for a reason..... They're actually VERY good....

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Tavares lp Hard Core Poetry has always been a fave of mine. Rumours by Freda is also a great track.

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Anyone mentioned "Too late"? This is a true modern soul masterpiece IMHO. And cheap as chips, also. I also do like "Positive Forces" from them.

 

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Their first album "Check it out" has several Johnny Bristol penned tracks including the brilliant "Never say never again".Definitely my favourite Tavares track.

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When they played the Prestatyn Weekender, I was tasked with writing their bio for the web site & programme.

I made the theme of my piece ... a great soul group who also had disco hits .... when the guys read it they were over the moon & I couldn't do anything wrong in their eyes all that weekend ....

I asked them early on the Friday if they would consider performing one of their Chubby & the Turnpikes tracks. After they realised these were still popular with UK soulies, they asked their UK music director (who had always led / provided their British musicians on previous visits) to source the music for a C&T song and to include it in the show. He was an arrogant prick & said yes but just continued to arrange the show as he wanted it to go.

Anyway, the time came for them to perform & there was no score organised for any C&T number ... they guys weren't too phased though .. they mentioned their previous existence during their performance & sang a couple of snippets of those old songs accapella (which went down well) ... NICE GUYS ALL ROUND ..

BTW, my fave album by them is the mega 'Madam Butterfly' .... Tavares + Sam Dees ... nothing is better ......

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On 1/9/2017 at 11:47, son of stan said:

Anyone know if it ever came out on US 7 at all? Or came out on UK issue?

Quick image search only shows the UK promo and what looks like a Euro one. Can't say I have done extensive investigations but always had a hunch for some reason, that this one wasn't properly released / fell through the cracks for some reason.. Sounds like a club and possible chart hit but seems obscure given the artists involved and its obvious quality and appeal to either market.

If,   as appears to be the case,   the record was only issued in the UK  and Europe,  it is more than likely  because it was released to promote the  "The Best of Tavares LP"  that you can see on the scan of the 7" in the first post on this thread.

The track "I Wanna See You You Soon" only appeared in the UK & European versions of the LP ,  not in the US release of the LP.

Plus the fact that both acts  were more popular in the UK & Europe than they were in their own country made even more sense for the company to release a duet single like that and look to get a  chart hit in the UK ...

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