Andy Rix Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 (edited) View full article Edited September 28, 2012 by Andy Rix 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Peter99 Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 Nice one Andy. Not read that before top stuff and very worthy of the man. Peter Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
arnie j Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 a great read,thank you jason Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 Superb stuff Andy Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Soulandy Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 Nice one Andy. Great read. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Agentsmith Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 hats off to you andy, that is a truly breathtakingly, staggering read, adding colour and gloss to what we mearly percieved was the story. if ever there was an inclination for a biopic, this is it, right here, right now. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Steve L Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 Brilliant piece andy! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest manusf3a Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 Brilliant,loved the part about how taking part in the sit in during the civi; rights protest era led to Frank going to Los Angeles as he had lost the chance of his scholarship.This just makes the record even more soulful knowing the man behind it just that little bit more.If he hadnt been willing to put himself on the line for what is right then maybe there would never have been such contributions as he made to soul music.Well done Andy for bringing to attention these things. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest SteveC Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 Thanks Andy. A really interesting read. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest giant Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 Thanks Andy your knowledge is incredible 'a really interesting read . Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
rallygoer Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 excellent read and appreciate the info , thanks a lot :-) Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
phatspinner Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 A great piece of writing. Much appreciated. Andy Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Carl Dixon Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 The stories are often as good as the music. Excellent piece....... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
macca Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 Now that was an excellent read indeed. Many thanks! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest martyn Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 An emotional read.... To say the least - Cheers Andy Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ernie Andrews Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 Great Read Thanks Andy. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
soultin Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 Very interesting read,he wrote and produced some great records r.i.p. frank...../ martin Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Spacehopper Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 good read...so frank recorded under the name sonny daye..would that be the same sonny 'dave' daye that released merry go round on ring-o?..or would the dave have been added to distinguish this sonny from franks? dean Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Soulwolf Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 Interesting article and a great read, apparently this Friday's DJ History podcast will pay homage to Frank. https://djhistorycom.podomatic.com/ Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Robbk Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 good read...so frank recorded under the name sonny daye..would that be the same sonny 'dave' daye that released merry go round on ring-o?..or would the dave have been added to distinguish this sonny from franks? dean No! Sonny "DavE" Day was a Pittsburgh "Blue eyed Soul" and Novelty/pop singer, who did much of his recording in New York. Ring-O was a New York label with Al Oliver on A&R. He also recorded the novelty song, "Tarzan", released on Jubilee Records, also recorded in New York. frank Wilson did all his recording as Sonny Daye in Los Angeles. And his voice is much deeper and richer than Sonny Dave Daye's. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Spacehopper Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 yeah thought as much!...only heard merry go round and didnt think he was black which is why i was a bit surprised when i read the article...thanx for confirming it dean Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Daved Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 Excellent article. A precis of which appeared in the i newspaper yesterday https://www.independent.co.uk/news/obituaries/frank-wilson-motown-writer-and-producer-behind-the-worlds-rarest-record-8194593.html?origin=internalSearch Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Monkey Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 superb read Andy thank you, all these years many people didn't know the whole story ... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Andy Rix Posted October 7, 2012 Author Share Posted October 7, 2012 Thank you all for your comments Maybe I should have expanded the article to talk about Frank's life. That is maybe something I should do when time permits. That aside I appreciate the fact that it has been of interest Regards Andy Rix Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest sharmo 1 Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 Thank you all for your comments Maybe I should have expanded the article to talk about Frank's life. That is maybe something I should do when time permits. That aside I appreciate the fact that it has been of interest Regards Andy Rix Hi Andy hope you're o.k mate i really enjoyed Your piece on Frank Wilson as per usual your impecable information .see you around mate simon (hunt) !!!! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Wilxy Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 Superb article Andy, Much appreciated! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tomangoes Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 Its what makes the scene what it is! a twist of fate that creates a legend. Must be the most famous alternative motown record of all time. Maybe a film will be made about it one day! Ed Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ianmack Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 thats the best reading i have had in ages ,i picked up the record for kb.that was an experiance itself for me .also i took him on the pepsi max on return to edinburgh .kb asked what would i have done if i dropped it . my response there would only be one ..... 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Max Morrison Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 Excellent article, a great read Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Russ Vickers Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 I reckon there is a film there Andy....& thats the script... Russ Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tomangoes Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 You learn something everyday don't you! Never knew 'toast to the lady' was actually by 'Frank'............So glad I met him, shook his hand, and said thank you! What a talent indeed. Ed Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Robbk Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 On 10/3/2012 at 08:52, spacehopper said: good read...so frank recorded under the name sonny daye..would that be the same sonny 'dave' daye that released merry go round on ring-o?..or would the dave have been added to distinguish this sonny from franks? dean No. There were several Sonny Dayes. I believe that the one on Ring-O was an East Coaster. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mike Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 from last year B-4 'Do I Love You' and After NEW INSIGHTS INTO FRANK WILSON’S MASTERWORK by Adam White A thorough backstory about “Do I Love You (Indeed I Do)” was written nine years ago by Andy Rix, with recollections from Wilson himself, among others. Even so, some key facts were missing – which have now come to light through the prism of paperwork obtained by musicologist Andrew Flory, author of the essential I Hear A Symphony: Motown and Crossover R&B. The document is a “B-4,” used to log details of recording sessions undertaken by members of the American Federation of Musicians, such as those who played on “Do I Love You (Indeed I Do).” So now, indeed, there is more to know about this moment in Motown history.... https://www.adampwhite.com/westgrandblog/2018/7/13/frank-assessment-anew 3 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tlscapital Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Wow ! Great article to read. Again and again and deeper at some stages. Particularly for me is that explanation bit with the story for the 1979 TMG release at Abbey Road Studio comparing the tape sent from Motown and the Eddie Foster boot whose sound had been lifted off from an original SOUL copy. My gut feeling was right but now I know the insight of it. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Moutton Noir Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 A fascinating read. I had no idea that Glen Campbell was a session player on the record or that Patrice & Brenda were on backing vocals. That really is a winning combination. It's kinda ironic that one of the best examples of the mid 60s Motown sound was actually recorded in California! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Wheelsville1 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 2 hours ago, Moutton Noir said: A fascinating read. I had no idea that Glen Campbell was a session player on the record or that Patrice & Brenda were on backing vocals. That really is a winning combination. It's kinda ironic that one of the best examples of the mid 60s Motown sound was actually recorded in California! Motown by name but not the typical Motown sound,nothing like what was being recorded in detroit by the Funk Brothers.The strings arrangement sounds more like what Fred Smith would have done at Keyman/Mirwood than what Paul Riser would have done with members of the DSO. This is very much a west coast recording. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 (edited) 6 hours ago, Moutton Noir said: A fascinating read. I had no idea that Glen Campbell was a session player on the record or that Patrice & Brenda were on backing vocals. That really is a winning combination. It's kinda ironic that one of the best examples of the mid 60s Motown sound was actually recorded in California! He wasn't if you read the union session card which is more accurate than unfounded rumours. Arthur Wright or Anthony Tony Matthews were the probable guitarists. Neither was Carol Kay on bass. Much of what she has said has been disproved. Read Adam White's blog for more details, the link was posted by Mike a few posts above in 2019 and the session card is below. Edited November 21, 2022 by Chalky Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Wheelsville1 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 2 hours ago, Chalky said: He wasn't if you read the union session card which is more accurate than unfounded rumours. Arthur Wright or Anthony Tony Matthews were the probable guitarists. Neither was Carol Kay on bass. Much of what she has said has been disproved. Read Adam White's blog for more details, the link was posted by Mike a few posts above in 2019 and the session card is below.eral I have also read several articles Karl where Carol Kay has exaggerated on the truth. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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