Northern Soul At The BBC Proms 2023

[Steve W]

Personally thought it was good. I think guys like Paul Riser and Jack Ashford would have been in their element hearing that orchestra in full flow. Tad disappointed not to hear "Crying over You" with all those strings. But hey I get excited when Snake Davis performs

[jimmyw]

14 hours ago, windycity said:

Very true words Lee after 45 years on the scene this has to be one of the finest Northern related events i have attended which gave our scene the finest and upmost respect it deserved at the home of the Greatest Classical music event on Planet earth this was worth every mile and penny from Carlisle and to those who find their place to critise and wish this and that was played what i say is this get a life. take care my friend atb Tony

Was the dancefloor any good

[Paul-s]

On 15/07/2023 at 23:36, Happy Feet said:

Just for once Paul  , let it go ,  it was entertainment, that's all .

Thanks for the advice...much appreciated. Entertaining for who.......

I have the space and integrity to say, it is nothing to do with any Northern Soul scene i have ever been a part of. It was, for me, as Chalky said, everything i ran away from via the Northern Soul Scene. In fact my parents used to watch it! And i didn't, and dont, want to be my parents.

Homogenised, sanitised, covers of NS vinyl  is not my bag, thats all. And i will say that without advice from anyone. The mainstream NS scene is exactly that, mainstream, where any coverage of NS is considered good coverage by the disciples of the Top 500: be it by BBC middle class producers giving it the old 4/4, happy clappy beat, or Strictly Come prancing events or The Flying Pickets doing a musical play, or mundane, smiley self-obsessed dancers coming at me on instagram.

It's as if people (many who were never really on the scene post Wigan, or at all it seems) are seeking validation via external arbitrators. Many cannot even just dance and 'get into it' without documenting themselves dancing or skipping or hopping around, posting how soulful they are  online. 

It is, i have written before, 'historico-pastiche', a re-imagined past of Northern Soul based on spurious bits and bobs, assembled, curated perhaps,  into a commercial package that is highly profitable, tame and devoid of any socio-political integrity. For me, it is everything I got into NS to escape from. 

Perhaps we can call this latest manifestation the 'Northern Stroll Scene'.

"Just for once Paul, let it go" What a bland and flaccid statement.  (just my opinion of course).

Edited July 17, 2023 by Paul-s

[Magpie69]

Would be interested to know what would be acceptable aspects of the “Northern Scene” to those who are bad-mouthing the way things are at the moment. Which venues/events/DJ’s are considered to be true to the original spirit of the scene as they feel it to be? Or are the true followers meant to just sit at home playing their OVO stuff and reminisce about the good old days?

 

[Geeselad]

The ultimate divometer

[Agentsmith]

On 16/07/2023 at 00:04, Stevegods said:

What a great night - did justice to everything , including Frank Wilson - just missed the orchestra doing “ Afternoon with the Rhino “

Absolutely spot on with that observation, the ultimate orchestral arrangement....suprised Maconie missed that....what a glaring error!

[Frankie Crocker]

The Prom gets a glowing five-star write up by Andrew Perry in the Features section of the Daily Telegraph today (17/07/23).

[Frankie Crocker]

18 minutes ago, Agentsmith said:

Absolutely spot on with that observation, the ultimate orchestral arrangement....suprised Maconie missed that....what a glaring error!

Agreed - The Mike Post Orchestra would not have been out of place. Other instrumentals come to mind such as Double Cookin’ and Supertime but the predominance of vocals made for a much better show than the run of the mill classical concert.

[Ian Parker]

ive searched and searched for videos.... anyone got a link so i can watch it ? 

[Douglaschip]

Only able to listen to it on BBC sounds until late August I believe when we can then see it on i player.

[Stateside]

41 minutes ago, Ian Parker said:

ive searched and searched for videos.... anyone got a link so i can watch it ? 

Just search BBC Proms northern soul in facebook there's a whole host of punter videos.

Nothing official yet though.

Edited July 17, 2023 by Stateside
typo

[John Hart]

August 26th ,is date for showing on BBC 2 TV. Following fabulous reviews on SS and mainstream Media!

[Chalky]

4 hours ago, Magpie69 said:

Would be interested to know what would be acceptable aspects of the “Northern Scene” to those who are bad-mouthing the way things are at the moment. Which venues/events/DJ’s are considered to be true to the original spirit of the scene as they feel it to be? Or are the true followers meant to just sit at home playing their OVO stuff and reminisce about the good old days?

 

If you need to be told then you simply will never get it

[Soulfulsolutions]

8 hours ago, Andybellwood said:

If only an 'inspired' BBC would find a way of releasing via vinyl LP/LPs ?

Same thing went through my head, 2 of us equals an "artistic movement".......... I think  

[Chalky]

Is this an attempt to make the Proms more mainstream?  Move away from the upper class twits you associate with it?  The very upper class twits who were once closing down the very venues where Northern Soul existed, jailed the clientele for daring to take a few pills to stay awake?

I have to agree with everything Paul said tbh.  It is everything I went to nighters to escape as are the people you associate with the proms and anything mainstream.  The scene was everything normal society wasn't.  Something like Northern Soul should not normalised.

[Jessie Pinkman]

I think that most of the people who listened to it live had a slight advantage over the ones who listened to it after the event.

Imagine listening on the radio to your favourite football club playing at Wembley and your hoping they don't lose heavily but there's a very good chance that they will. The match kicks off, the goals start going in, I can't quite believe we're winning as the ball keeps hitting the back of their net.

We score from the kick off MVPS, then the Drifter from 25yds, Lee David 3-0 Jimmy Beaumont 4-0,  Yvonne Baker 5-0, Gladys Knight 6-0 etc

My neighbour missed the match live but listens to it afterwards knowing the score, all his mates told him how great it was.

Not the same is it. It's only live once.

 

 

Edited July 17, 2023 by Jessie Pinkman

[Stateside]

6 minutes ago, Jessie Pinkman said:

I think that most of the people who listened to it live had a slight advantage over the ones who listened to it after the event.

Imagine listening on the radio to your favourite football club playing at Wembley and your hoping they don't lose heavily but there's a very good chance that they will. The match kicks off, the goals start going in, I can't quite believe we're winning as the ball keeps hitting the back of their net.

My neighbour missed the match live but listens to it afterwards knowing the score, all his mates told him how great it was.

Not the same is it. It's only live once.

 

 

Like the old Benny Hill sketch where he comes home and his wife is ironing and he says " Quick put the telly on, it's match of the day" and she says "I don't know why you're so excited, you won't see any goals"

It sounded great through my Sonos sound system live with the volume whacked up not knowing what was coming next.

[Chalky]

1 hour ago, Jessie Pinkman said:

I think that most of the people who listened to it live had a slight advantage over the ones who listened to it after the event.

Imagine listening on the radio to your favourite football club playing at Wembley and your hoping they don't lose heavily but there's a very good chance that they will. The match kicks off, the goals start going in, I can't quite believe we're winning as the ball keeps hitting the back of their net.

We score from the kick off MVPS, then the Drifter from 25yds, Lee David 3-0 Jimmy Beaumont 4-0,  Yvonne Baker 5-0, Gladys Knight 6-0 etc

My neighbour missed the match live but listens to it afterwards knowing the score, all his mates told him how great it was.

Not the same is it. It's only live once.

 

 

But if you haven't seen the programme you don't know the score do you?

[Jessie Pinkman]

14 minutes ago, Chalky said:

But if you haven't seen the programme you don't know the score do you?

Of course not, if you just listened to the match/concert later without looking at the result/reviews beforehand.

Edited July 17, 2023 by Jessie Pinkman

[Frankie Crocker]

2 hours ago, Jessie Pinkman said:

I think that most of the people who listened to it live had a slight advantage over the ones who listened to it after the event.

Imagine listening on the radio to your favourite football club playing at Wembley and your hoping they don't lose heavily but there's a very good chance that they will. The match kicks off, the goals start going in, I can't quite believe we're winning as the ball keeps hitting the back of their net.

We score from the kick off MVPS, then the Drifter from 25yds, Lee David 3-0 Jimmy Beaumont 4-0,  Yvonne Baker 5-0, Gladys Knight 6-0 etc

My neighbour missed the match live but listens to it afterwards knowing the score, all his mates told him how great it was.

Not the same is it. It's only live once.

 

 

Jimmy Beaumont hit the crossbar methinks. Hardest song to recognise on the playlist! Other side of the record is a winner, top left corner, sent the keeper the wrong way...

[Ian Parker]

well,   ive got my tin hat on,    the BBC concert orchestra NAILED Exus Trek.      that was quite wonderful....

[Happy Feet]

9 hours ago, Paul-s said:

Thanks for the advice...much appreciated. Entertaining for who.......

I have the space and integrity to say, it is nothing to do with any Northern Soul scene i have ever been a part of. It was, for me, as Chalky said, everything i ran away from via the Northern Soul Scene. In fact my parents used to watch it! And i didn't, and dont, want to be my parents.

Homogenised, sanitised, covers of NS vinyl  is not my bag, thats all. And i will say that without advice from anyone. The mainstream NS scene is exactly that, mainstream, where any coverage of NS is considered good coverage by the disciples of the Top 500: be it by BBC middle class producers giving it the old 4/4, happy clappy beat, or Strictly Come prancing events or The Flying Pickets doing a musical play, or mundane, smiley self-obsessed dancers coming at me on instagram.

It's as if people (many who were never really on the scene post Wigan, or at all it seems) are seeking validation via external arbitrators. Many cannot even just dance and 'get into it' without documenting themselves dancing or skipping or hopping around, posting how soulful they are  online. 

It is, i have written before, 'historico-pastiche', a re-imagined past of Northern Soul based on spurious bits and bobs, assembled, curated perhaps,  into a commercial package that is highly profitable, tame and devoid of any socio-political integrity. For me, it is everything I got into NS to escape from. 

Perhaps we can call this latest manifestation the 'Northern Stroll Scene'.

"Just for once Paul, let it go" What a bland and flaccid statement.  (just my opinion of course).

" Thanks for the advice...much appreciated" Thank you.

" Entertaining for who " , For the audience, who where at The Albert Hall by the sound of the reaction they gave and from most of the post comments, on SS and other media outlets too.

Nowadays quite a lot of old Soulies can't get out and about, either through old age or illness or both. I bet they found it entertaining too , I know I did , nothing wrong with my ears just my bowels.

Saturday night it sounded fresh , ok a couple of vocalists a bit of a shaky start , but the music , the orchestra, the venue , made for a very entertaining occasion. I don't believe I've sold out , I still buy plenty of 45s old & new for my own enjoyment, Northern , Modern and new Soul releases .

To be honest I admire your integrity and beliefs , and if I was able to get out and about more I would probably think the same , there is very little though for Soulies of a certain age group, to get excited about .

I'm not looking to score any points here , why what for ? And for the record I loved your work " Once Upon A Time In Wigan " , went to see it in Coventry and the do after brilliant.

Atb Paul 

Dave 

 

[Jessie Pinkman]

16 minutes ago, Happy Feet said:

" Thanks for the advice...much appreciated" Thank you.

" Entertaining for who " , For the audience, who where at The Albert Hall by the sound of the reaction they gave and from most of the post comments, on SS and other media outlets too.

Nowadays quite a lot of old Soulies can't get out and about, either through old age or illness or both. I bet they found it entertaining too , I know I did , nothing wrong with my ears just my bowels.

Saturday night it sounded fresh , ok a couple of vocalists a bit of a shaky start , but the music , the orchestra, the venue , made for a very entertaining occasion. I don't believe I've sold out , I still buy plenty of 45s old & new for my own enjoyment, Northern , Modern and new Soul releases .

To be honest I admire your integrity and beliefs , and if I was able to get out and about more I would probably think the same , there is very little though for Soulies of a certain age group, to get excited about .

I'm not looking to score any points here , why what for ? And for the record I loved your work " Once Upon A Time In Wigan " , went to see it in Coventry and the do after brilliant.

Atb Paul 

Dave 

 

Ah I didn't realise that Paul S was the guy who ended up cut into pieces and stuffed in a suitcase in Dead Mans Shoes.

Classic Film.

[Ian Parker]

29 minutes ago, Jessie Pinkman said:

Ah I didn't realise that Paul S was the guy who ended up cut into pieces and stuffed in a suitcase in Dead Mans Shoes.

Classic Film.

it was indeed

[Imperial C]

31 minutes ago, Ian Parker said:

it was indeed

I do - that was the least track played, due to an over run its on the next performance along with Gloria Jones 

on the BBC site if you missed it. 

[Catsprint]

I listened to it earlier today and thought it was super. At the end of the day if things like this don’t happen, before we know it us oldies will be gone. Surely we don’t want the ‘scene’ to go with us.

[Tlscapital]

Just read the 'leaflet' program (only not the unecessary 'artists' pedigree) handed at those who attended the show. Typical today's gibberish on a "friendly" tone mixing little facts with untrue myths and the "humble" 'me, myself and I' I taught I knew it all but not. Nothing essential if not for the undisclosed aim to make it all available to the bigger world.

Or in their other words to bring it out from the 'dark ages' and out 'into the light'. Things that makes you go 'Mmmh'. Like a soap advert or some floss thing making it 'commercially' acceptable. That which many of the most committed and passioned condemned with the 'commercialism' attempt of the then of the NS phenomenon by the mid seventies.

Begging to wonder why such criticism beyond the 'artistry' performance, to appreciate or not (more of that later), is not a valid argument to be made if heard at all anymore. While all the 'warning signs' are out there for all to see ; the ads, the buzz, the 'bling-bling'. But maybe this is where 'nostalgia-land' magic happens for some. Just like 'happiness' pills.

Where those 'not under influence', a few or the fewer seemingly, try to warn from 'the fooling'. To no avail and only little reaction. Oh well. Now the music ; made by people not at all in soul music, even less into northern soul, resulting as what can only expect to be MUZAK that turned out to be exactly that. Music to be played at low volume in public places.

And exactly this as Joe Duddel co-curator/arranger states with his difficulty to sort out an 'end' to the actual 'fade out' on the sometimes 'poor quality of the recordings' (wait until he ears some of the other stuffs we dig other than the selection he was given) actually says of what those involved 'in the artistry' of this project makes-out of that 'soul' edge...

And I have no problem if some dig that. Just like other musical genres. MUZAK even have their fans. Some of the 'rare' library recordings are even good. Still this here will never be even considered by those deep into that. Here it's only is a selection of some of the good and bad northern soul TOP 500 made into lush MUZAK lacking edges from all sides.

If some find this here an incredible artistry performance. Fine it is. And yet I tried to listen to the radio playback online but I couldn't for more than a few minutes at a time and I heard NO SOUL at all. Nor groove nor guts. Only flat, bland, unpassionate pastiche covers of NS tunes all soul-less. Some singers were dramatic 'opera style'. That's still not soul.

Edited July 18, 2023 by Tlscapital

[Frankie Crocker]

Review in Times 2 of yesterday’s Times (17/07/23). Just glad to be one of those of pensionable age but the younger brigade might consider the last sentence a bit cheeky.

[Paul-s]

1 hour ago, Frankie Crocker said:

Review in Times 2 of yesterday’s Times (17/07/23). Just glad to be one of those of pensionable age but the younger brigade might consider the last sentence a bit cheeky.

The Times.....who cares what they say? Are they also curating the scene now?

[Frankie Crocker]

7 hours ago, Paul-s said:

The Times.....who cares what they say? Are they also curating the scene now?

Just informing our readers... The Times is a decent newspaper therefore worth flagging up. Always interesting to see what appears in the press just in case the writers become more objective.

[Chalky]

7 minutes ago, Frankie Crocker said:

Just informing our readers... The Times is a decent newspaper therefore worth flagging up. Always interesting to see what appears in the press just in case the writers become more objective.

It wasn't the glowing review you lot on here give it was it?

[Frankie Crocker]

21 minutes ago, Chalky said:

It wasn't the glowing review you lot on here give it was it?

No idea who the author is or his credentials, but as with all sorts of reviews, best to take what you want from them. His piece is now a matter of record for others to reflect on - he used the word ‘clunky’ but that was not appropriate as the orchestra handled several tricky tunes with panache. For the orchestra to achieve what they did, they must have listened to the original music in some format; to accommodate the vocalists, the rehearsals must have been endless. I thought the performance was brilliant - I own most of the tunes on original vinyl and all of them in some format or other; I have listened to some of the tunes hundreds of times over the last 50 years. I doubt Stephen Dalton can match that but he still felt he had to be sufficiently nit-picking to please his sub-editor.

[Neil Austin]

18 minutes ago, Frankie Crocker said:

No idea who the author is or his credentials, but as with all sorts of reviews, best to take what you want from them. His piece is now a matter of record for others to reflect on - he used the word ‘clunky’ but that was not appropriate as the orchestra handled several tricky tunes with panache. For the orchestra to achieve what they did, they must have listened to the original music in some format; to accommodate the vocalists, the rehearsals must have been endless. I thought the performance was brilliant - I own most of the tunes on original vinyl and all of them in some format or other; I have listened to some of the tunes hundreds of times over the last 50 years. I doubt Stephen Dalton can match that but he still felt he had to be sufficiently nit-picking to please his sub-editor.

Well said ️

[Harrythedog]

I understand that this site is called Soul Source, and there we have clue. I know iam in a minority with this but why are we discussing the BBC concert orchestra on this site. It has really has baffled me how we can rave about an orchestra which has about as much soul as my big toe. I may be blinkered but i did not hitch up and down the country in 1976/1977 and follow the scene ever since to listen to listen to The BBC orchestra play covers of the music which changed my life for ever. I always said the scene owes me nothing, but i owe it everything. Please get a grip.

[Woodbutcher]

Just pleased to see the review clearly state that it was about a scene that flourished from the late 60's to the early 80's ..................... that means it was bugger all to do with the scene that I know starting in '81 at the Wirrina , through Stafford and the 100 Club on to today ... 

[Leicester Boy]

27 minutes ago, Woodbutcher said:

Just pleased to see the review clearly state that it was about a scene that flourished from the late 60's to the early 80's ..................... that means it was bugger all to do with the scene that I know starting in '81 at the Wirrina , through Stafford and the 100 Club on to today ... 

Wigan getting blamed for the BBC orchestra now

[Jessie Pinkman]

3 hours ago, harrythedog said:

I understand that this site is called Soul Source, and there we have clue. I know iam in a minority with this but why are we discussing the BBC concert orchestra on this site. It has really has baffled me how we can rave about an orchestra which has about as much soul as my big toe. I may be blinkered but i did not hitch up and down the country in 1976/1977 and follow the scene ever since to listen to listen to The BBC orchestra play covers of the music which changed my life for ever. I always said the scene owes me nothing, but i owe it everything. Please get a grip.

It's okay because the conversation will end tonight as Wednesdays are usually dominated by the results on Manships auction.

Edited July 18, 2023 by Jessie Pinkman

[JJMMWG DuPree]

On 16/07/2023 at 11:23, Twoshoes said:

I don't disagree with most of what you say though I don't see any exploitation in this case.Much as the majority who have contributed to this thread whilst listening  enjoyed it and I may well be wrong here I doubt many would buy a recording of it were such a thing made available taking it into the realms of exploitation depending on your view.

Much as we might like to think of the music as ours it never has been and never will be.

There are some naff live albums but personally I usually prefer live albums to studio recordings so, yeah, I'd buy it.

[JJMMWG DuPree]

On 17/07/2023 at 15:23, Chalky said:

If you need to be told then you simply will never get it

Now that is truly ironic...

[JJMMWG DuPree]

5 hours ago, harrythedog said:

I understand that this site is called Soul Source, and there we have clue. I know iam in a minority with this but why are we discussing the BBC concert orchestra on this site. It has really has baffled me how we can rave about an orchestra which has about as much soul as my big toe. I may be blinkered but i did not hitch up and down the country in 1976/1977 and follow the scene ever since to listen to listen to The BBC orchestra play covers of the music which changed my life for ever. I always said the scene owes me nothing, but i owe it everything. Please get a grip.

Why are you discussing the musicians at all?  They're just working stiffs.  Some enjoy it, some hate it, most just get on with it, just like factory workers.  Musicians arrive for the job, play the dots that the man has given them to play, get paid and go home, and that applies to the people who played on the original records just as much as the orchestra.  As stated on the programme, they used the original arrangements whenever they could, the rest of the time they copied them out from the discs.  In other words the only difference between the performances was with the singers, and they all seemed to be putting their all into it.  My only criticism would be the gaps between the songs.  Too long.  I was shouting "Get on with it!" in nearly all the breaks (Much to the consternation of my fellow motorists...).

[Roburt]

I'm with the 'haters' on here. It was nothing like a true reflection of WC ...

where were the shite pop tunes, where were the bootleg 45's, why were the audience not made to dress in bags & vests, why wasn't the venue and it's toilets wrecked ahead of the concert to catch the 'real feel' of the Station Road venue. Where was DusbinStanley; it could never have been authentic without him being the headline compere. Why didn't it run through to 8am. Where was the gear.

It also seems that the BBC don't intend to run the event week after week, advertising every night as being the 'FINAL NIGHT'. Where was the photographer from the NME to document the death throes of the great institution.

NO, I'M AFRAID THAT FOR ME, this BBC concert was just pandering to those folk that enjoy quality music played by talented musicians (& singers). They didn't even have the b*lls to invite Wigan's Ovation (or the Beach Girls) along. PURE SACRILEGE.  

[Roburt]

Some great clips of people enjoying themselves at the event have been posted up on Facebook. Those in attendance certainly seemed to have gotten swept up in the joy of the occasion.

www.facebook.com/watch/?ref=search&v=1028987714685544&external_log_id=34215e52-24ed-4784-8e26-16b242e9171c&q=bbc%20northern%20soul%20prom

To paraphrase an earlier post on this thread though ... It really has baffled me how we can rave about the pop pap played at the Casino, it has even less soul than my big toe .... ... Different strokes for different folks I guess.

Edited July 19, 2023 by Roburt

[Ian Parker]

10 hours ago, Jessie Pinkman said:

It's okay because the conversation will end tonight as Wednesdays are usually dominated by the results on Manships auction.

brilliant.    

[Happy Feet]

Anyone read this yet ? 

https://thesoulhouse.net/2023/07/17/bbc-proms-northern-soul-review/

A different take may explain sound quality ,,,

May need to click on articles to read 

Edited July 19, 2023 by Mike
link fixed

[Amsterdam Russ]

The url has corrupted. Try this one instead:

https://thesoulhouse.net/2023/07/17/bbc-proms-northern-soul-review/

[Geeselad]

Interesting that we haven't had a prog proms, or a be bop special, perhaps a orchestral rendition of Miles David's sketches of Spain. The reasons simple, irrelevant and they have too much respect for those genres. Where as northern, well they don't care about offending us uneducated plebs. Reminded me of when James last played the Albert hall. 

[Amsterdam Russ]

31 minutes ago, Geeselad said:

Interesting that we haven't had a prog proms, or a be bop special, perhaps a orchestral rendition of Miles David's sketches of Spain.

There is a jazz prom...

Quote

Carnegie Hall’s National Youth Jazz Orchestra are joined by Grammy Award-winning singer-songwriter Dee Dee Bridgewater to perform a collection of jazz standards. 

Featuring the best teenage performers from across the USA, NYO Jazz also presents contemporary works exploring jazz’s influence on hip-hop, R&B and pop music in this unmissable late-night performance.

https://www.royalalberthall.com/tickets/proms/bbc-proms-2023/prom-23-nyo-jazz-usa-with-dee-dee-bridgewater/

[Davebanks]

When I was young we used to listen to a radio show called workers playtime. Popular tunes played by jobbing musicians and singers and broadcast from a factory canteen. It was popular mainly because the BBC refused to play recorded music. Years later we had those "Top of the Pops" albums on budget labels. Then we had Wigans Ovations sound of Lancashire etc.  There is a direct lineage here. Not really an OVO event more like a KFC advert.

[Frankie Crocker]

3 hours ago, Happy Feet said:

Anyone read this yet ? 

https://thesoulhouse.net/2023/07/17/bbc-proms-northern-soul-review/

A different take may explain sound quality ,,,

May need to click on articles to read 

There were no sound issues apparent to these well trained ears. From the first note of the MVP’s, the sound was loud and clear, fully authentic and recognisable in the first two bars. Same with Dobie Gray. I’ve got short-snatch video clips of all 31 songs but I can’t load them on Soul-Source and Facebook would not accept the 2min 37secs for Tobi Legend. The remainder of the review was OK but the author was incorrect to state there were sound issues.

[Jessie Pinkman]

59 minutes ago, Davebanks said:

When I was young we used to listen to a radio show called workers playtime. Popular tunes played by jobbing musicians and singers and broadcast from a factory canteen. It was popular mainly because the BBC refused to play recorded music. Years later we had those "Top of the Pops" albums on budget labels. Then we had Wigans Ovations sound of Lancashire etc.  There is a direct lineage here. Not really an OVO event more like a KFC advert.

I must have missed that KFC advert with the Philharmonic Orchestra.

You've just reminded me to get my Sound Burger (King} fixed then I can play my OVO

I wish I still had Bob & Fred (Big Mack) to play on it

Edited July 19, 2023 by Jessie Pinkman