Mr. Mark Dobson Aka Butch

Winsford Soul · February 27, 2014

I remember making the fatal mistake of 'insisting' my work colleagues came to 'one of my do's'......What was I thinking?!!! - What an idiot!.......After they had 'settled down' after seeing a load of 'old blokes in vests' dancing on their own, they approached me absolutely crying'with laughter......"Look, look Len!" (showing me a poster)......"Special guest Butch!!! lol!" etc, etc.....You can imagine the rest.....god I hate engineers.....

Len

Oi . Len. I,m a engineer :shhh: Steve

Labeat · February 27, 2014

Me 2

sir cumference · February 27, 2014

Onna sure lark, but ar thowt he were frim Olseerger, tinna hayven stowk, castle raylee. I conna tork thuw, thee coal us Biddlers wallybocs.

Gayselad- ees deffo not owsayger-dunner know wheer theyt got that from?

Dresden-neyar Longton Park.Neck end.End of.

Quinvy · February 27, 2014

Gayselad- ees deffo not owsayger-dunner know wheer theyt got that from?

Dresden-neyar Longton Park.Neck end.End of.

Is that why his SS name is neckender then? :g:

Edited February 27, 2014 by Quinvy

KevH · February 27, 2014

Is that why his SS name is neckender then?

Zoicks.!! That's blown it kids.!!

boba · February 27, 2014

apparently he won't have sex with you if you pick him up as a hitchhiker

Len · February 27, 2014

what keeps him going.

Luckily (for us) I would imagine D.Jing, along with records is well worth him doing (financially)......I wonder if he would still be doing it if that wasn't the case - does he still get 'the buzz' after all these years? I hope so.

Len :thumbsup:

Billywhizz · February 27, 2014

Butch, great dj, ive known people to travel around the country just to hear his set, never heard him play a bad set, someone told me long while ago the word he got the name butch, in his early days when dj'ing alot of use to crowd around the decks when he was playing, and he use to rare up, thats where he got his name from, me thinks. Cheers Billy

Labeat · February 27, 2014

Posts 46 & 54.... I don't understand a word of Welsh :g:

Keeper · February 27, 2014

Posts 46 & 54.... I don't understand a word of Welsh

Move to North Wales .......hardly anyone speaks it there !!!!!

Quinvy · February 27, 2014

apparently he won't have sex with you if you pick him up as a hitchhiker

Agh! so that was you was it Bob. :lol:

Colouredman · February 27, 2014

Ive lived in Stoke all my life, and never heard of him! Is he the bloke who sells oatcakes in Hanley??? Wat u say his name is??? Bush? Buzz? Budge? Butcher? I did hear of a Stokie blokie here, with a name like that who had a great collection of Bert Weedon 45's. I'll ask around next time I go 'Up Hanley Duck'!

Prophonics 2029 · February 27, 2014

To me, he is what 'Northern Soul' stands for (along with Mad Sean from The 100 Club) - very unassuming, and just

:rofl: Haha !... I see Sean during the day :shhh: :shhh: :shhh: :shhh: He ain't that mad. I think its

the drink and the talcum that makes em mad.

Edited February 27, 2014 by Prophonics 2029

Jim Elliott · February 27, 2014

He may be the bloke who sells outcakes at Susies butty bar in Penkhull, round corner from me house, he's called Butch.

Jim.

Frankie Crocker · February 27, 2014

Ive lived in Stoke all my life, and never heard of him! Is he the bloke who sells oatcakes in Hanley??? Wat u say his name is??? Bush? Buzz? Budge? Butcher? I did hear of a Stokie blokie here, with a name like that who had a great collection of Bert Weedon 45's. I'll ask around next time I go 'Up Hanley Duck'!

I heard a story about two outlaws called Big Tim and Little Butch who would go to America and rob the rich to give to the poor, or was it the other way round? These bandits would bribe keepers of unwanted vinyl records to part with obscure items for sums as high as 50 cents. Hundreds of dollars changed hands with Americans retiring to live off the proceeds, yes, literally hundreds of dollars. Derelict pottery kilns in the five towns near Stoke were filled with containers full of boxes full of records - a cultural revolution in the Stafford area established these 'unwanted' records actually had two sides, one of which was actually pretty good, extremely brilliant or dazzlingly superb. Apparently these two mellow souls have been nominated for New Years Honours for services to conservation, industry and entertainment...

Ernie Andrews · February 28, 2014

If you have been on the same bill as him which do you think is worse - Going before him or after his set!

I did both at Barcelona some years ago and shit myself on both occasions. What I remember about the weekend was him asking me where he first remembered me from and we sat and talked for an hour and still couldnt find an answer. Was it Wigan/Mecca /Ritz etc WE just agreed it was too long ago to remember!

The one thing I did remember was warching him put his records next to the deck. Given that someelse in a previous post said " I wonder about his security" WEll his records were in a broken cardboard box! :yes:

Geeselad · February 28, 2014

Gayselad- ees deffo not owsayger-dunner know wheer theyt got that from?

Dresden-neyar Longton Park.Neck end.End of.

fair enough, folk, just heard he lived over in that area, so assumed he had that was where he was from, conna kayp the dialect up four lung. just wondering why its called the neck end...

https://www.thepotteries.org/six_towns/longton.htm

Mace · February 28, 2014

He's a neckender Geese, where mums, sisters and girlfriends can be one the same...bit like Crewe without the webbed feet......

Geeselad · February 28, 2014

its perhaps a good opportunity to re- tell a tale I've heard told on the scene a couple of times; and ask if there's any truth in it?

apologies in advance if its entirely fictional.

'local resident was playing a set at winsford nighter in the dark days of the mid 9ts. He played an acetate of one of Butch's exclusives, dubbed from a tape from one of his dj sets. Butch strolls over to the decks and as the tune is still playing takes the needle off the deck and walks back over to his sales box without saying a word.'

if it is true, conna fault yer youth. was anyone there? can you confirm it? what was the tune?

dthedrug · February 28, 2014

:hatsoff2: HI ALL...MARK (BUTCH) DOBSON #KING SPINNER from SOUL ON TRENT. A TRUE SOULSTER, TOP COLLECTOR, KIND FREIND.

BUTCH is without doubt a TOP Geezer, with huge knowlage of SOUL music,...comeing from Stoke Mark was weened on Northern SOUL surrounded by many mentors from this important town/s.

Not sure when he started going to Wigan Casino, although I can remember Big Tim buying records from myself Ady, Mick Smith & Pete Wid however he must at some time, (77 Wigan was full of Kids) many younger people got into the NORTHERN SCENE, & SOME OF THE TOP NAMES TODAY, COME FROM THIS DEMOGRAPHIC,

Mark landed up in Mr M's doing a DJ spot right up to the place closed (I think?)

It was the mid 8ts that MICK SMITH Introduced me, and for many years we would all meet up at KEELE, selling records at KEELE was a happy time for me, and the regular dealers (Dave * Louise, Mick & myself BUTCH & Big Tim had a corner that become ours) in this period I got to see Mark as a person with humanistic qualities who showed great empathy & positive regard towards under privileged people,

in recent times most of my US SOUL 45s I have got from BUTCH, and I can recommend to all SOULSOURCE MEMBERS as one of the best dealers for RARE SOUL,

Mark like many friends of mine is kind and sensitive towards my own issues, he belongs to top end of the scene & like Mick Ady Clarky Taffy Randy Johnny Manship Keith Dave Welding Big Tim and all the good brothers & sisters, in-fact he is nearly as good as my mentor MICK SMITH.

RIGHT ON MARK (BUTCH) DOBSON

DAVE KILWORTH :thumbsup:

Philt · February 28, 2014

its perhaps a good opportunity to re- tell a tale I've heard told on the scene a couple of times; and ask if there's any truth in it?
apologies in advance if its entirely fictional.
'local resident was playing a set at winsford nighter in the dark days of the mid 9ts. He played an acetate of one of Butch's exclusives, dubbed from a tape from one of his dj sets. Butch strolls over to the decks and as the tune is still playing takes the needle off the deck and walks back over to his sales box without saying a word.'
if it is true, conna fault yer youth. was anyone there? can you confirm it? what was the tune?

Aye.

Can't recall who or what it was but remember the night. Was looking through boxes when the unmistakeable sound of a mat suddenly finding itself being 'played' at 45rpm hinted at a less than delicate on stage manoeuvre lol.

Has to be up there in the pantheon of unequivocal, 'live' OVO-related interventions

Dave Rimmer · February 28, 2014

its perhaps a good opportunity to re- tell a tale I've heard told on the scene a couple of times; and ask if there's any truth in it?

apologies in advance if its entirely fictional.

'local resident was playing a set at winsford nighter in the dark days of the mid 9ts. He played an acetate of one of Butch's exclusives, dubbed from a tape from one of his dj sets. Butch strolls over to the decks and as the tune is still playing takes the needle off the deck and walks back over to his sales box without saying a word.'

if it is true, conna fault yer youth. was anyone there? can you confirm it? what was the tune?

It was at Winsford allnighter, and the acetate was of Walter & The Admerations. Butch walked from the record bar to the stage, took the needle off the acetate, took the acetate off the deck and threw it across the stage, then walked back to the record bar.

I wasn't the DJ, but I know who was, but I don't know whether he's on SS, so I'll not name him, but he's not local to Winsford.

Dave Rimmer · February 28, 2014

If you have been on the same bill as him which do you think is worse - Going before him or after his set!

I've done both. To be honest, you just have to accept that you are not going to match him in terms of rarities, but that doesn't mean you can't play just as good, well put together set.

Jason S · February 28, 2014

Didn't he once play a mean frisbee with one of Trouble's 45s? Can't recall the context but that would have been comedy gold!

DtheD · February 28, 2014

Didn't he once play a mean frisbee with one of Trouble's 45s? Can't recall the context but that would have been comedy gold!

Mellow Madness I believe , Jason....

Jason S · February 28, 2014

Mellow Madness I believe , Jason....

Ouch...that's one expensive frisbee! :facepalm:

P5OULH · February 28, 2014

Let's not forget that Butch is a top quality record dealer too!!

had some great tunes from him..

Oxford nights

jesse James...are you gonna leave me

the jokers...soul sound

bill bush...I'm waitin, ......top all round man.. I allways thought Stevie z found the first Jokers in Val shivelys in Philly !!!

Martyn Pitt · February 28, 2014

It was at Winsford allnighter, and the acetate was of Walter & The Admerations. Butch walked from the record bar to the stage, took the needle off the acetate, took the acetate off the deck and threw it across the stage, then walked back to the record bar.

I wasn't the DJ, but I know who was, but I don't know whether he's on SS, so I'll not name him, but he's not local to Winsford.

I remember him running down the hall and leaping onto the stage, I did not think it was Walter & The Admirations though Dave, I thought it was something exclusive to Butch.

I think it was Polly that christened it "reverse stage diving" in the following issue of Manifesto

Winsford Soul · February 28, 2014

I remember him running down the hall and leaping onto the stage, I did not think it was Walter & The Admirations though Dave, I thought it was something exclusive to Butch.

I think it was Polly that christened it "reverse stage diving" in the following issue of Manifesto

I cant remember the record but will bow to Dave,s memory, it was years ago. I cant even remember what you look like Martyn its that long since I seen you :yes:

Steve

pikeys dog · February 28, 2014

Wasn't it the Parliaments 'Rainy Day'?

After he'd had his set secretly recorded through the mixer at the Rocket?

sir cumference · February 28, 2014

Winsford incident-definitely "You Left Me",

May have been other tunes/other times.

It clearly shows the integrity of the man.

First Class!

Ernie Andrews · February 28, 2014

I've done both. To be honest, you just have to accept that you are not going to match him in terms of rarities, but that doesn't mean you can't play just as good, well put together set.

I did Ok Dave but even comparing me to you - Your Champions league material and Im playing in the conference so the Gulf between me & Butch is astronomical! I could put a decent set together then but you still know whats coming or gone before and you know how hard its is or gonna be. However the European crowd are less inclined to judge you against the Emperor!

Len · February 28, 2014

If you have been on the same bill as him which do you think is worse - Going before him or after his set!

I've done both, and would have to say I'd prefer to be on before him - That way, at least people would stay in the room!

Doing so isn't intimidating as such, it's more a privilege, and as long as you aren't 'trying to be Butch', he's quite nice about it.

All the best,

Len :thumbsup:

Dave Rimmer · February 28, 2014

I did Ok Dave but even comparing me to you - Your Champions league material and Im playing in the conference so the Gulf between me & Butch is astronomical! I could put a decent set together then but you still know whats coming or gone before and you know how hard its is or gonna be. However the European crowd are less inclined to judge you against the Emperor!

I think Len probably phrases it better than me, what I was trying to say is if you are confident enough in your own set being a good set, and you are not attempting to beat Butch in terms of rarity, you can put a set in that will be just as appreciated by the dancers.

For consistency over the years though, he's the man, and I don't think anyone will ever match that now.

Quinvy · February 28, 2014

If you have been on the same bill as him which do you think is worse - Going before him or after his set!

I did both at Barcelona some years ago and shit myself on both occasions. What I remember about the weekend was him asking me where he first remembered me from and we sat and talked for an hour and still couldnt find an answer. Was it Wigan/Mecca /Ritz etc WE just agreed it was too long ago to remember!

The one thing I did remember was warching him put his records next to the deck. Given that someelse in a previous post said " I wonder about his security" WEll his records were in a broken cardboard box!

It all depends on the venue. I've been to big multi room allnighters where the crowd will all congregate just before Butch goes on stage. Then as soon as he plays his last record there's a mass exodus out of the room. The Dj's either side must have been devastated.

It never happened when he worked for me. My regulars didn't want me to book the "big" names. :rolleyes: He was always brilliant though. :yes:

Tiberius · February 28, 2014

He's a neckender Geese, where mums, sisters and girlfriends can be one the same...bit like Crewe without the webbed feet......

Cut and pasted from Stoke-on-Trent Tourist Boards own website.

February 28, 2014

seen karl heard follow butch easy peasy..........it,s not all about rare.........a lot of folk seem fixated on rare.........it,s about entertainment.....not the djs entertainment,the punters

spot · February 28, 2014

He's the Shaman of Soul & drives a hairdressers car, it's been said he once smiled but most say it was trapped wind, to me he came into his own once he dropped that Sundance & he's even too cool for Ray Davies who, seeks him here, seeks him there, cos he's a dedicated follower of fashion & the Move saw him, sat watching flowers in the rain, feeling the power of the rain making the garden grow, other than that he's a normal everyday fella who loves Music.

Spot.

btw. He's a real nice guy as well as an excellent Jock but don't tell him, he'll just get all above his station.

Edited February 28, 2014 by spot

Mick Boyle · February 28, 2014

Was Butch first to play Arthur Willis or was that Andy Rix

Chalky · February 28, 2014

Was Butch first to play Arthur Willis or was that Andy Rix

From Memory it was Butch, off Rod Shard? Andy Rix got the copy of Barry James and there was one found in a shop in Blackpool.

Winsford Soul · February 28, 2014

Z

From Memory it was Butch, off Rod Shard? Andy Rix got the copy of Barry James and there was one found in a shop in Blackpool.

Chalky. How do you remember these things. I can't even remember who I bought records off. Steve

spot · February 28, 2014

Z

Chalky. How do you remember these things. I can't even remember who I bought records off. Steve

Steve he's the Yoda of SS but a bit greener & bigger ears.

Spot.

p.s. He usually asks Andy D.

Winsford Soul · February 28, 2014

Steve he's the Yoda of SS but a bit greener & bigger ears.

Spot.

p.s. He usually asks Andy D.

That's class mate, class. Steve

February 28, 2014

February 28, 2014

Last time I said hello to him (at the Stafford reunion) he said, 'You alright Steve?' :huh:

February 28, 2014

Last time I said hello to him (at the Stafford reunion) he said, 'You alright Steve?'

You should of replied "I'm good thanks Trigger" :lol: could of been worse he could of called you Adam :lol:

got to to admit this thread has been funny even though I don't know Butch it feels like I do after reading through this

Heisenberg · February 28, 2014

got to to admit this thread has been funny even though I don't know Butch it feels like I do after reading through this

QFT !

thanks again everybody - that was a lot more than I could hope to get outta you SS-experts :thumbsup:

one question remains: will Mr. Dobson care to close the thread himself ? :lol:

Winsford Soul · February 28, 2014

one question remains: will Mr. Dobson care to close the thread himself ?

Only if he can cover it up as the soul sources by Mark Dobson on all about the soul label. :g: Steve

NEV · March 1, 2014

He's ok, but got a long way to go before he reaches legendary status like Soul Sam!

jocko · March 1, 2014

I assume it's common knowledge he DJ's in woman's underwear under his vintage Levi's. He told me in Bamberg he always buys one size too small as it keeps him focussed.

Edited March 1, 2014 by jocko

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